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Llama 4 Scout 17B-16E vs Ministral 3 14B

Llama 4 Scout 17B-16E and Ministral 3 14B both score 6 on the intelligence index. The cheapest machine here that runs Llama 4 Scout 17B-16E is the Framework Desktop, 128GB, at $3,449. Ministral 3 14B runs on the Mac mini M6, 24GB at $1,099, $2,350 less. On the Framework Desktop, 128GB, the cheapest machine here that runs both, Llama 4 Scout 17B-16E is about 1.1× quicker: 16 tok/s against 14, Llama 4 Scout 17B-16E's measured and the other estimated from memory bandwidth. At 500k tokens a day the Framework Desktop, 128GB pays for itself in 110 years running Ministral 3 14B, against 215 years running Llama 4 Scout 17B-16E.

Llama 4 Scout 17B-16EMinistral 3 14B
Intelligence index66
ClassBelow every hosted tierBelow every hosted tier
Weights65 GB8.2 GB
Needs at 32k68 GB14 GB
QuantisationQ4_K_MQ4_K_M
Parameters108.6B (17B active)14B
Max context10M256k
API price per 1M$0.1 in / $0.3 out$0.2 in / $0.2 out
LicenceLlama 4 Community LicenseApache 2.0
Machines here that run it13 of 3733 of 37
Cheapest machine that runs itStrix Halo Framework Desktop, 128GB $3,449Mac mini M6, 24GB $1,099

Run Llama 4 Scout 17B-16E on the Framework Desktop, 128GB · or Ministral 3 14B on the Mac mini M6, 24GB

Jump to: Side by side on the Framework Desktop, 128GB · How much use it takes to pay for the machine · Machines that run one and not the other · The assumptions behind both columns

Side by side on the Framework Desktop, 128GB

The table above gives each model the cheapest machine that runs it, and those are two different machines, so nothing in it is a like-for-like race. The Strix Halo Framework Desktop, 128GB is the cheapest machine here that runs both, so this is the pair doing the same work on the same hardware.

Llama 4 Scout 17B-16EMinistral 3 14B
Speed at 32k16 tok/s measured14 tok/s estimated
Pay-back on this machinePays back in 215 yearsPays back in 110 years
API cost per month$1.71$3.04

Run Llama 4 Scout 17B-16E on the Framework Desktop, 128GB · or Ministral 3 14B

How much use it takes to pay for the machine

Everything above is at 500k tokens a day. Pay-back moves with how much you actually run, so here are both models at the five levels of use the calculator names, on the Framework Desktop, 128GB. Ministral 3 14B pays for it sooner at every level of use, so which of them to run does not turn on how hard you work it.

A day's useLlama 4 Scout 17B-16EMinistral 3 14B
50ka few chats a day2,152 years1,097 years
200klight assistant use538 years274 years
1Ma moderate coding-assistant day108 years55 years
4Mheavy coding with an agent27 years14 years
20Magents running most of the day5.4 years2.8 yearsits ceiling

The Framework Desktop, 128GB generates at most 19.5M tokens a day on Ministral 3 14B, so that column's figure at 20M tokens a day is for the most it can do, not for the whole of what was asked.

Run Llama 4 Scout 17B-16E at 20M tokens a day · or Ministral 3 14B

Machines that run one and not the other

Ministral 3 14B needs 14 GB of memory at 32k of context and Llama 4 Scout 17B-16E needs 68 GB. That puts Ministral 3 14B on 20 of the 37 machines priced here that Llama 4 Scout 17B-16E does not, starting at $1,099.

MachinePriceMemorySpeed on Ministral 3 14BPay-back
Mac mini M6, 24GB$1,09924 GB9.4 tok/s estimatedPays back in 34 years
Strix Halo Framework Desktop, 32GB$1,26932 GB14 tok/s estimatedPays back in 40 years
Mac mini M6, 32GB$1,29932 GB9.4 tok/s estimatedPays back in 40 years
AMD Radeon AI PRO R9700, 32GB$1,299card only32 GB41 tok/s estimatedPays back in 40 years
Mac mini M5 Pro, 24GB$1,69924 GB17 tok/s estimatedPays back in 53 years
Strix Halo Corsair AI Workstation 300, 64GB$1,70064 GB14 tok/s estimatedPays back in 54 years

14 more, on the Ministral 3 14B page.

Llama 4 Scout 17B-16E is also head to head with Qwen3 14B above it on the leaderboard. One more model needs much the same memory: gpt-oss-120b. Ministral 3 14B is also head to head with Qwen3 8B below it on the leaderboard. Two more models need much the same memory: gpt-oss-20b and Qwen3 14B.

The assumptions behind both columns

Both columns use the same usage: 500k tokens a day at 15:1 input to output, 32k of context, $0.17 per kWh, and today's API prices held flat. Speeds marked estimated are worked out from memory bandwidth rather than measured, and pay-back scales with them. Where nobody rents an open model by the token, its API prices are the nearest hosted model's, named beside them. Machines are the 37 here with a published price that are still sold. Change any of it in the calculator.

More head to head: every machine that runs Llama 4 Scout 17B-16E · every machine that runs Ministral 3 14B · every other match-up · both against the frontier · the quickest pay-back at each level of use