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Qwen3.8 Flash Next vs DeepSeek V4-Flash

Qwen3.8 Flash Next scores higher on the intelligence index, 40 against 35. Both take the same machine to start: the cheapest here that runs either is the Mac Studio M5 Ultra, 256GB, at $10,799. On it, Qwen3.8 Flash Next is about 1.5× quicker: 74 tok/s against 49, both estimated from memory bandwidth. At 500k tokens a day the Mac Studio M5 Ultra, 256GB pays for itself in 372 years running Qwen3.8 Flash Next, against 1,736 years running DeepSeek V4-Flash.

Qwen3.8 Flash NextDeepSeek V4-Flash
Intelligence index4035
ClassSonnet-classSonnet-class
Weights120 GB155 GB
Needs at 32k121 GB155 GB
QuantisationQ4_K_MUD-Q4_K_M
Parameters180B (6B active)284B (13B active)
Max context256k1M
API price per 1M$0.15 in / $0.47 out$0.04732 in / $0.09464 out
Licenceqwen-community-1.0MIT
Machines here that run it1 of 371 of 37
Cheapest machine that runs itMac Studio M5 Ultra, 256GB $10,799Mac Studio M5 Ultra, 256GB $10,799

Run Qwen3.8 Flash Next on the Mac Studio M5 Ultra, 256GB · or DeepSeek V4-Flash

Jump to: Side by side on the Mac Studio M5 Ultra, 256GB · How much use it takes to pay for the machine · Memory is not what separates them · The assumptions behind both columns

Side by side on the Mac Studio M5 Ultra, 256GB

The cheapest machine that runs either model is the same one, so this is the pair doing the same work on the same hardware: Mac Studio M5 Ultra, 256GB, at $10,799.

Qwen3.8 Flash NextDeepSeek V4-Flash
Speed at 32k74 tok/s estimated49 tok/s estimated
Pay-back on this machinePays back in 372 yearsPays back in 1,736 years
API cost per month$2.59$0.77

Run Qwen3.8 Flash Next on the Mac Studio M5 Ultra, 256GB · or DeepSeek V4-Flash

How much use it takes to pay for the machine

Everything above is at 500k tokens a day. Pay-back moves with how much you actually run, so here are both models at the five levels of use the calculator names, on the Mac Studio M5 Ultra, 256GB. Qwen3.8 Flash Next pays for it sooner at every level of use, so which of them to run does not turn on how hard you work it.

A day's useQwen3.8 Flash NextDeepSeek V4-Flash
50ka few chats a day3,715 years17,360 years
200klight assistant use929 years4,340 years
1Ma moderate coding-assistant day186 years868 years
4Mheavy coding with an agent46 years217 years
20Magents running most of the day9.3 years43 years

Run Qwen3.8 Flash Next at 20M tokens a day · or DeepSeek V4-Flash

Memory is not what separates them

Qwen3.8 Flash Next needs 121 GB of memory at 32k of context and DeepSeek V4-Flash needs 155 GB. Every machine priced here that runs one runs the other, at 32k of context. So the choice between them is what each is good at, how fast it runs and what the same work costs on an API, not what you have to buy to hold it.

Qwen3.8 Flash Next is also head to head with Ling 3.1 flash above it on the leaderboard and Qwen3 235B-A22B Instruct 2507, the last-generation Qwen nearest it in size. DeepSeek V4-Flash is also head to head with Qwen3.8 27B below it on the leaderboard. Two more models need much the same memory: MiniMax M2.7 and Inkling Small.

The assumptions behind both columns

Both columns use the same usage: 500k tokens a day at 15:1 input to output, 32k of context, $0.17 per kWh, and today's API prices held flat. Speeds marked estimated are worked out from memory bandwidth rather than measured, and pay-back scales with them. Where nobody rents an open model by the token, its API prices are the nearest hosted model's, named beside them. Machines are the 37 here with a published price that are still sold. Change any of it in the calculator.

More head to head: every machine that runs Qwen3.8 Flash Next · every machine that runs DeepSeek V4-Flash · every other match-up · both against the frontier · the quickest pay-back at each level of use